. >> it sounds like the debate you moderated between governor romney and president obama. 97% of small businesses are spared with a $250,000 limit in terms of tax increases. what we're talking about are people making a lot of money, lawyers and investment bankers and those who are in subchapter s corporations on who can pay more for goodness sakes. if it means moving the economy forward. it's time to take these old arguments and set them over here and talk about a new day, a new approach. that's what the election was all about. >> senator durbin, congressman price, thank you both for joining us this morning. appreciate it. >> thanks, candy. >> thank you. >>> next, he was chairman of mitt romney's hispanic steering committee, but carlos gutierrez has some tough talk for his party when it comes to immigration reform. >> if we get it wrong, shame on us. ♪ [ gordon ] for some this line is a convenience. how you doing today? i'm good thanks. how are you? i'm good. [ gordon ] but for others, it's all they can afford. every day nearly nine million older americans don't have enough to eat. a